Mystical Drama: an Unrequested Review
[EDIT January 26th 2008]
Do I even need to say it? You get what you want. 
Oh yeah, she’s moved to Kawaiipurinsesu, in the meantime.
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For those of you who’ve been regular visitors, you would know that I never start e-drama. I admit to feeding e-drama, and egging the participants on, but I never start e-drama. Why? Free link to the “victim”. However I decided to make an exception this time. After all, if Barbi kept accusing me of starting drama I might as well do it.
Piqued your interest? Then read on for an unrequested review of Mystical Drama (that’s the site’s name, by the way).
First of all, the screen shots (click on the images for the full version):
Now on to the the actual review.
First Impression:
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Slow loading time, despite the fact that I use high speed broadband. After an entire minute or so, I see a neon colored header. While I’m personally not a huge fan of these colors, the over all composition is quite good actually. There is a flash effect, though rather oddly placed. Switching over to Internet Explorer, it appears that the white circles (mimicking the resonance effect) are actually placed inside the large pink circle.
So basically, all this trouble, and it won’t even look as it’s supposed to. Not to mention that users with smaller resolution (beware those with 800x600px screen resolution) are going to get an eye-full of neon colored circles. At least it’s not side-scrolling.
I’m not really interested in these flash effects so I more or less ignored it. The music however, I found it rather hard to. First of all, I was listening to something completely different, and here you come and force a “You gotta shake your ass” on me. Not only was it annoying, but due to your sidebar’s less than ideal organization I had to hunt around another minute till I found the stop button… and then I had to rush over and stop it every time I changed the page.
Layout:
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I wondered why you had got so angry at my initial comment, since I actually complimented your layout first hand. Now I know: the layout was not made by you. Not only that, but you’ve successfully managed to destroy it as well. Now it won’t work properly in ANY browser. Since, right now Firefox seems to be the one displaying it best, I’ll continue my browsing using that.
Your sidebar is of course long and mostly filled with things not strictly related to your site. It starts with Advertisement, followed by Ad’s (which should be spelled Ads)… Ads is the shortened form of Advertisements, which is the plural for Advertisement. So you basically have two different sections with the same name.
Oh well, next come your latest updates. They are well placed, considering that you seem to have mostly returning visitors. Unfortunately the Javascript is scrolling them much too fast making it impossible to actually read what you wrote there. Aside this, you list too many of your updates there. Considering that you also list most updates in your blog posts, you could safely remove more than half of these updates. Just state the most important and most recent ones. If people want to know more, they can browse your blog archives.
Next comes a paragraph of statistics. Out of these your name, the site’s name and your host name are important. The latter more for you, who link her out of courtesy. The rest can very well be put inside the domain/site section. Incidentally, the text here is so small that I completely overlooked it. The only reason I knew your site’s name is because you mention it in one of your blog posts (which uses a much larger font size).
The dreadful music player, followed by “Affys” (affiliates for those in doubt), then Exchange’s (which should be spelled Exchanges) a Vote 4 Me button, a Link Me button with a link text saying PICKEY … I’m assuming that should probably be “picky”: a diminutive form for the verb to pick. All this deduced by the fact that it links to your link buttons’ page.
Oh and wonder of wonders: your main navigation. Pushed down below, because obviously linking to other sites is much more important than keeping visitors on your own. The next category consists of link to sister sites – yet another batch of links elsewhere – a tagboard, a virtually impossible to decipher TO DO LIST, and finally the credits. This one is also sporting a rather large broken image.
Moving over to the content area, I come across another two broken images (second post from the top titled “new stuff all the way”). Aside this, it seems that each of your posts is written in a different color. Last webmaster who I’ve seen do this was 10 years old… and even that was a good few years back.
Content:
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Your blog generally consists of site updates, unless you’re screaming at some hater for daring to point out your spelling mistakes.
Before going on to take the sections one by one, I’d like to mention part of the Credits, which states that Mystical Drama represents a TradeMark.
According to Wikipedia:
A trademark or trade mark is a distinctive sign or indicator of some kind which is used by an individual, business organization or other legal entity to uniquely identify the source of its products and/or services to consumers, and to distinguish its products or services from those of other entities.
Trademark – Wikipedia
Please keep in mind the bolded text: uniquely identify and distinguish from others. Meaning that nowhere else can the same products be found.
=Generators=
These consist of forms, where pressing a button a set text appears. With the exception of the image of the Winged Heart nothing was actually made by you, as revealed by a quick glance at the code. And I’m not 100% sure the button either, it might just be missing proper credits.
You use a flash object script from Deconcept, the MySpace Graphics come from EgoBox and the actual comment script from GlitterBell.
The last four generators are provided by Zaiaku (the link is broken on her site as well), though the credit seems to be missing from the “Make your own MS layout”; the kitschy background is telling though.
The main navigation here mysteriously changes from vertical to horizontal, and the link to Generators is named Vistors (most probably a misspelling of Visitors). This obviously means that you are not using PHP includes, and actually include the sidebar, header and footer manually into all files. While this is technically not incorrect in itself, it is definitely prone to lots of errors. Not to mention that layout changes must be a pain to perform.
=Goodies=
Yet another batch of MySpace related graphics.
You have one about me box, with no credit, so I’m assuming you created it in Photoshop. It actually looks decent, but it’s not a particularly great work of art. What interests me most is the coding.
First of all: textareas are not meant to be used as coding containers. There is a tag named code which does has been defined by the W3C (the creators of HTML and CSS) for this exact purpose. You can customize it using CSS to look in accordance to your wishes. Second, the textarea is so small that absolutely NO ONE will be able to read anything from within it.
Nevertheless, let’s see what it actually “says”: you put a table inside a div element simply to center it… After which you proceed to put random rows and cells, and other divs… and you hope that something will come of it.
1)It’s syntactically incorrect
2)I highly doubt you have any idea what you’re doing there.
3)It’s incredibly messy coding – so no wonder it is incorrect
Still, let it not be said that I’m bashing you without reason.
1)You declare a div with centered text. The reason for this is so that you can center the table. There is a much easier way to do this. Set the text alignment of the body tag to center (<body style=”text-align: center;”>), and specify margin:0 auto for the table (<table style=”margin: 0 auto;” … >). Of course, all this comes on top of your already specified style attributes.
2) You declare a table with three rows (3 pairs of tr tags).
The first one has one cell, the second 2, and the third one with a colspan of 3. From this coding it is quite clear that you don’t know what colspan does.
Colspan specifies the amount of cell space a given cell should take up. This is in order to have a fully rectangular table. Your coding generates something like the image below:
I’m assuming you were aiming for something like:
(note: proportions are probably not accurate in the two pictures above)
This basically means, that the top most cell and the bottom most cell should have occupy the whole space above respective below the two cells from the row in the middle. In other words, these two cells should each span over 2 columns: colspan=”2″ (not 3).
3) There is no reason to declare divs inside table cells. Use padding and margin to make your text fit exactly where it is needed. Technically it is not incorrect, but very bad practice. Also, you are giving this code to complete beginners: how exactly are they supposed to understand it if you don’t even make the effort to simplify it as much as possible?
Your layouts are either dead set on blinding your visitor (by forcing him/her to decipher neon green text over light blue) or rather keen on causing them a seizure (by overload of heart shapes). Aside this, you have an impressive amount of dead links (LAYOUT NAME HERE), plus some button codes… that obviously don’t work in Firefox. The buttons displayed look exactly the same as the default ones. I’d fix your coding, but it’s almost 1 a.m., I’m tired, not to mention being mean. I’m causing e-drama after all. All this was just for the regular layouts, which is enough to convince me that I don’t need to see the other two layput categories.
Your online icons are cute… but then again, they are not exactly yours. But reading your terms of use at the top, I’m doubt you actually understand your own English… or you’re a hypocrite. Take your pick.
First of all you state:
these are not made by me i found them all on photobucket and would like to share them with you…
and after that in blinding neon pink:
**MUST COMMENT IF USING** All are made by me i worked real hard on them
So which is it? Are they or aren’t they all made by you? And if they aren’t, why should people link back to you? What’s your merit in the creation of these icons? Anyone can do a simple search on Photobucket. How will you prove that they haven’t found them on their own?
The MySpace Special Characters page is a broken link and the Comment Box’s (that should have been spelled as Comment Boxes) is under construction.
On seeing the layout for your basic HTML codes, I literally started laughing hysterically: it doesn’t work in ANY browser. See screenshots below (click for full version):
Ironic really: you want to teach others HTML but can’t even code the tutorial page properly.
Moving on to the actual tutorial… which I very optimistically assume that your visitors will manage to read, despite the fact it can’t be seen well on ANY browser. First of all you don’t explain what exactly you are providing a tutorial for. Sure you might argue that tag names are rather self explanatory. True, to those who’re familiar with HTML, but then those people are not the ones who will use these tutorials.
Aside this, the font tag is deprecated, along with the b, u and s tags. Instead of font use the CSS font attribute to specify the font (size, family, etc), instead of u (underline tag) use CSS (text-decoration: underline); b should be replaced by strong and s by del.
Moving on to your Advanced MySpace HTML Codes… which are actually CSS snippets. Ladies and gentlemen, a revolutionary discovery has been made: every single line of code is basically just … HTML. Incidentally, it would’ve been easier to just tell people to create a CSS class called hide and one called show.
See definition below:
.hide{ display: none;}
respectively,
.show{display:inline;}
And whenever you wanted to hide an HTML element:
<tagname class=”hide”> text to hide </tagname>
By the way, it is preferred to use visibility: hidden for table cells (td), instead of display: none. The former definition hides the content of the table cell, but not the actual space occupied. This is important to maintain a table cells’ proper alignment.
The contact buttons are just plain image links… with a mile-long coding, which is probably yet again incorrect and unnecessarily bloated. The custom page layouts are… celebrity pictures with seizure inducing striped backgrounds, and a rather clashing neon blue line in the middle where your site name shows up. How THOSE can be made into layouts? Then again, I’m not a particularly creative person so I could very well be wrong.
The Pic captions consist of images with rude text on them (with the exception of the Happy Halloween one). Your wallpaper is bad quality (I can see lots of jagged edges around the cat’s head). The pixels yet again require you being credited despite not having actually made them. The icons are typical emo-teenager ones. The glitters are probably from EgoBox, or the original graphics are from EG at any rate.
There are some mediocre PaintShopPro brushes which require a ridiculous amount of reasons. Aethereality’s brushes far succeed yours, yet they require much less hassle (i.e. a simple link back). And your Photoshop downloads is a broken link.
omain=
You seem to be able to spell Requests inside the page, so I’m going to assume that you also possess the amazing ability to fix the link text on the domain page. Now the actual content of this page is another matter: I had to read it three times to get an inkling of what you’re trying to say.
The contact form is the exact same on both this page and the next one (Affys). Interesting new spelling: the whole world spells it either as Affiliates of Affies, but you somehow manage to insert a y in there.
I loved the Haters/Jockers page; I swear I really did. It amused me to no end. However, I’m not entirely sure why you’re having this page since you obviously don’t let haters do their job: that of hating. You keep banning them and screaming obscenities at them… as well as threatening them with your host. I half expected you to announce that you’d be telling on me to my parents.
The page link that says Affiliates&Links is your Link Me buttons’ page, so it would be a good idea to change the text of the link. Unless of course you want to keep inducing your visitors in error.
Then you have a plug board that no one uses: small wonder given its location. The link titled Feedback and the one titled Ask Me go to the same questions asked page.
Feedback from the visitors means that they tell you their opinions. They don’t ask you questions.
You credit everything you use, for which I sincerely commend you. Most people with similar sites don’t, then again they’re generally about half your age. Interesting though that you claim you use both Photoshop and PaintShopPro for everything you make. So basically all your Photoshop artwork was actually made in PaintShopPro, which was obviously made in Photoshop, that was made in … Right: got it.
Kay recoded the layout? You should be cursing her not thanking her. She destroyed a perfectly good layout… oh wait, she’s your host. Yeah, you have to be nice to her: understandable. Kay is indeed a very nice person, I agree.
And the highlight, you actually manage to misspell Notepad as “not pad”. Now THAT requires talent!
=Girl=
The same old generic list, with millimetrical text. The only interesting thing I found was your age: 24. Really? And you assume I’m 10-years-old? Considering I don’t try to ban, or otherwise insult you? Ah well, I suppose paranoia comes with age.
And with that, I conclude the content of your site. Nowhere have I seen you point out that you can’t spell. The post I commented on was the one title “HARSSMENT” from October 21st. Keeping in mind that you have 3 posts per page, I would have had to check your archives, and scroll way down, past those insane amount of blinking icons…
Wake up honey: I only scour the archives if your blog is interesting. However unless you suddenly turned into Violent Acres overnight, there’s no chance I’d voluntarily submit myself to such a torture. Though that begs the question of why the HELL I reviewed you. For the record, I’m pleading temporary insanity 
Coding:
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HTML – no doctype, two title tags, a mile-long Javascript (at least save it in an external .js file so it will save your site loading time), you use an external stylesheet but still litter your HTML tags with style attributes.
CSS – the external CSS file informs me about the existence of the following tags: bold, underline and italic (spelled exactly like that). If you’re wondering I’m being sarcastic: there are no such tags.
Conclusion:
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Remember how I asked you to keep in mind the definition for Trademark? We’re looking for distinctive signs on her work, as well as unique identifiers.
A distinctive sign: regular amount of original content for this type of site. In other words: none whatsoever.
Unique identifiers for her work: unique copy and pasting abilities perhaps. There’s absolutely nothing that belongs to you in here. Everything has been taken from someone else’s site.
After painstakingly (I’m getting a crick in my neck) going through your site, I’ve come to the realization that bad spelling and grammar, coupled with lack of punctuation are the least of your problems. You just plain don’t understand basic English. That’s the only plausible reason I can find for the ineptitudes that fill your pages.
Yes, I was rude. Did she deserve it? Well it all started with me making the following comment:
Nice header image, but your spelling is atrocious.
By the way, there are online proxies that can easily bypass IP banning. Ignoring someone who’s “harassing” you is more effective.
This had Ms Barbi so hysterical, that she felt the need to ban me from posting, as well as demand that I leave her site, which I apparently kept accessing illegally by means of proxies (see comments on my previous post).
I apologize for any spelling/grammar mistake I have overlooked. Feel free point them out.
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
thanks for geting me 400 + hits with this and i love it thanks you
you rock
you are making me famous off this and my fan base just getin bigger thanks
Ashley
October 23rd, 2007
yo. listen here. you need to stop with your crap…If you were mature you would ignore her..she has bi- polar. Do you even know what Bi-polar does to people.? or what it is? Is it a mental disorder……look it up before you make fun…For somebody to make fun of a mentally ill person is pretty fucked in the head. If you mess with her you are messing with me. So Messege me in private on ponybox, i am Rosewood Creek Studs, id 9906) if you want to talk more crap about my sister.
Always,
Ashley Nicolle
Ashley
October 23rd, 2007
Barb, it is because they see what she really is…lol
Belinda
October 23rd, 2007
@Barbi, errr you might get more hits but believe me, you’re not getting new fans from this review.
As I said on Snark, Vera, love this review you did. Very thoughtful and well written.
Rilla
October 23rd, 2007
I can’t believe you spent all your time doing a tremendous favour for a rude person! Can I like, flame you to score a free quality review?
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
@Belinda yes i am geting more fans thanks:)
@rillla well said on some parts
on my listings
she has no life so there for she has all the time in the world to do this
and to every one else i am not done codeing this at all i am sorry
but the more hits the more my site gets on the top
thanks
for yet makeing me famous
you rock
Kaylee
October 23rd, 2007
You really must have been insane
Great review!
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
oh thanks for the nice things said to about me on
you making me famous all around:)
http://dubious.nu/forum/index.php?topic=2960.0;topicseen
thanks you wonderful i got 30 hit from tthere alone
you rock
and for all that siad i ran here she sant me an e-mail likte you told her too and i wanted to see
Belinda
October 23rd, 2007
@Barbi: Why are you so obsessed with hits? I kinda feel sorry for you when all you go on about is hits.
Vera made some excellent points in her review, you’d honestly make your site better if you followed some of what she said at least. That way you’d actually get REAL fans. Currently you say you’re getting more fans when you really aren’t. Saying that you have new fans doesn’t make it so, Barbi.
Louise
October 23rd, 2007
If Mystical Drama’s content is considered acceptable, then I think it’s equally fine for Vera to write reviews about anything she wants.
Websites are a form of media brought out for public viewing, just like books and movies are. So you have to expect anyone from the public to view it, and have opinions. If it was wrong to review a site, then it would be equally wrong to review a film, restaurant, game, book, etc.
The point of having a website is so that people can find out about you and/or what you can do. If you don’t want particular people visiting, then you can have friends-only Myspace page or LiveJournal diary.
However, doesn’t excluding groups of people (unless there’s a very good reason, like for safety) defeat the purpose of putting your presence on the world wide web in the first place?
Anyway, this review points out a lot of things which make the site difficult to comprehend. Everything is written for a reason, and well written. Not once is there a “barbie is a stupid *insert rude word here*”. I think the point of this is to try and help improve what’s there, and explain why particular things aren’t practical.
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
she came to me being nasty and rude ….. i just got over no moer then 10 mins b4 with this girl named beth carrying on and on and on about some bs i did not know at all …….. she want to my host (beth did not veara) and chaged her ip 100 times i finly got her off my site and ….. bam Vera said this i realy thoght she was from this beths site or one iof beths freinds
i mite of jump the gun but if you saw what i was gonin thogh on aim , myspace, my e-mail and mysite with this beth you would probley did the same
….. let me say b4 i have a real bad probulm spelling i realy do it has goting better from posting on my site but realy thats not what my site is there for for peopel to troll and pick at i make graphics and thats whats its there for and the place that you listed about the gens they where give to me free b/c i could not pay for them all i have to do in reutne is keep that link on there
and i was adding backrouns too them after they looked plane:)
also i have not realy finshed codeing my site and thanks for leting me know i missed that page
and i am very new at codeing thats not my storing suit …. i make stufff graphics
i copyed and pasted that thing that says i make them by mastke ….
thanks for pointing that out i will fix that
one thing is i am dumb at codeing sorry i would take all her help with that but i dont under satand it
and if you realy take your time to read my firs cute news post you will see that i cant spell i say it right there
i am sorry
but can you all understand
and yes i am 24 yrs old
and i am a horbble speller
sorry we all did not get A’s in every supject in shcool i know some one failed something
and this i have to say to Vera her self
thanks for the complament on the layout ….
i went tho hell trying to get it to work
and the ask page dont work i reaaly dont know why i cant figher it out i wish some one could help me but right now i have no one
thanks for trying to read my bad spelling and i hope you see or get what i am saying
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
and sorry for posting two times but i have no idea how to get it to work in IE at all
any one want to help me?
Kycoo
October 23rd, 2007
“Incidentally, feedback doesn’t generally involve questions. Feedback means your visitors’ opinion about you.”
Actually, I think feedback does involve questions. From what I’ve seen, the webmaster asks a few basic questions about the layout and/or content, and the visitors give him their opinion.
(I know you’re referring to the fact that the feedback link leads to the “Ask Me a Question” page, but I just wanted to throw that out.)
What was really annoying about the site was that I opened it in a new window, and whenever I clicked on a link and then went back to Lianko to check out what you’d written about it, I’d get bounced back to Mystical Drama because the page had finished loading. I’ve never had that happen before on Firefox.
Vera
October 23rd, 2007
Ashley: … yet you’re the one calling her crazy. By the way, I never said I was mature. You misinterpreted me somewhere. I fully admit to being rude and mean in this review.
Rilla: your site’s not crappy enough for that
Kycoo: from the visitor’s part, I mean. I fixed that.
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
and yet you can’t awawser me ?
Vera
October 23rd, 2007
I wasn’t aware you were asking anything.
Oh about the layout: Bouncy Bubbles’ original one works perfectly fine in both Firefox and Internet Explorer. Get it, and see what you changed about it. I never got straight A’s in school, not even in English.
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
yes but that was a div and i had to convert it to php with all that good stuff and i haveing a heard time
Vera
October 23rd, 2007
What does PHP have to do with divs? You only had to insert something like <? include(‘header.php’);> above the content area, respectively <? include(‘footer.php’);> below the content area. Then you put anything that code-wise is above the content area inside header.php, and anything below the content are inside footer.php.
Vixx has a pretty straightforward tutorial for this on Codegrrl.com, titled Headers and Footers that’s the one I first used when implementing basic PHP include() function.
Rachael
October 23rd, 2007
@Ashley – Being bipolar is not an excuse / explanation for bad spelling. Nor is depression, suicidal tendencies, general sadness, or any other condition that affects your emotions. Your sister is 24 years old and perfectly capable of thinking for herself, which includes proof-reading and spelling.
@Barbi – You really do need to work on your spelling, sweetheart. Stick at it, and you’ll get there. I find the best way to improve your spelling is to do more reading – hopefully the way others spell words will sink in. Vera’s given you this nice long review (a poor attempt at trying to start drama, if I may say so) so by reading it several times you’ll not only be able to improve your spelling, you’ll be able to improve your site as well.
You say coding isn’t your strong point. Why, then, have you messed around with a perfectly good layout, and provided a tutorial on html? I really don’t think you should be teaching other people stuff you’re not proficient in yourself.
And whilst we’re on the subject of cross-browser compatability, Vera – you’re suffering from droppage in IE6.
Vera
October 23rd, 2007
Ugh… I didn’t check it in IE6. Since it’s a template I didn’t think of it, I’ll see what I can do.
Rachael
October 23rd, 2007
It’s just this one entry that drops. The other entries are fine, and so is the main page…
Vera
October 23rd, 2007
Fixed. One of the quotes was acting up.
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
@Rachael do you know how to fix this b/c i am racking my brain trying to do it
Vera
October 23rd, 2007
Check your e-mail, Barbi.
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
you gonna have to resend it to me i did not get it sorry
Vera
October 23rd, 2007
I didn’t receive any notification of failure. Yahoo is sort of acting up (didn’t let me attach a file).
I uploaded the text: http://lianko.com/emailBarbi.txt
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
ok thanks i am gonna do this not today on my boyfriends day off so he can watch the kids:)
opk thanks i will tell you when i get it up
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
oh and i will be nice and let you post on my site i will unban you
but plese dont be rude
Vera
October 23rd, 2007
I wasn’t rude, blunt yes. I suppose I could have been nicer, but I wasn’t. I suppose it’s a side effect of having been a reviewer for 2 years.
If you don’t want me to post there it’s OK, I’ve made my point. Good luck making the layout work. Also, read the tutorial I linked above (from Codegrrl), so that you understand what I did.
V
October 23rd, 2007
I’m fairly sure my eyes are bleeding.
I’m not exactly sure how someone equates 400+ hits from a site that’s essentially saying your site sucks with gaining popularity.
Vera
October 23rd, 2007
Out of curiosity I did go to check out her supposed larger fan base. No new comments have been made on her posts since the posting of this, and only some 3 posts on the tag board, which were some answers to affiliation requests.
So she’s definitely bluffing with the larger fan base. Either that, or she’s assuming that every visitor is a fan of her site.
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
i requsts up the ass for graphics
thanks i cant even pump them out fast enff thanks for that tho:)
just to awser your qustion
Ashley
October 23rd, 2007
You guy are perfectly capable of Being a mature reviewer…Reviewing does not consist rudeness…you don’t see Cisco and Ebert bashing people personally when they review movies do you?…and why does the text turn green, and illegible when i put my cosur over it…it is pointless and hard to read. and actually it does explain that stuff you mentioned…mental(like mind, learning..that sorta thing)disabilities….oh..and if you have anything further for me….Email me…hh9686@gmail.com. This way we can actually have a mature debate on what is really insane and what is a mental disorder…
this site is too confusing…everything is too long and not wide enough…the font is TINY. And a lot of comps freeze when you try and click pictures that open in different windows…so you have some fixing to do…constructive criticism works best on people…oh and why are you posting your immaturity on this site publicly…i mean i’d message you or something but i can;t find where to do it? Now everybody can come on this site and read your ignorance and personal fights with others…people tend to get a bad vibe when they read stuff like that..
FYI- Ignorance IS NOT a bliss
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
LOLZ all i have to say and she told you
@ ashley you got to do the \__0_/ after it
barbi
October 23rd, 2007
oh and i am sorry i am not BARBIE thats a plasic whore
i am BARBI
can you get it right plese
Ashley
October 23rd, 2007
i…NOT ie.
do you guy need some ointment for that burn?
Carly
October 23rd, 2007
Vera – I don’t even know where to start with that site…..
Barbi you got another ‘hit’ from me. But I’m no fan. I loaded your site in my browser, laughed at the myspaz graphics for about 30 seconds – couldn’t find any navigation – then laughed again, and left. I’m sure even my pet dog would know to put the links higher up, at the top so people could find them??
I have a brandnew laptop with a good cable connection and yet your website was sooo slow… too many things on there, yet a prevailing lack of real substance.
And Ashley, I know what Bi-polar is but I’m not sure how it affects the ability to write legibly? Or where exactly Vera was making fun of a mentally ill person? She was pointing out the shortcomings of another’s site.
Anyway…
Belinda
October 24th, 2007
@Ashley You’re saying Vea got “burned” for making ONE spelling mistake with the name? I wouldn’t think you can afford to give extra ointment compared to the amount of burnage you get from your spelling.
Why are YOU making fun of spelling when you do it much more poorly than Vera?
Unlike some people, I’d think Vera would be quite happy to get constructive criticism (COHERENT constructive criticism) from people.
Meggan
October 24th, 2007
@Barbi – Regarding the spelling thing – recognizing you have a problem is definitely the first step! The next is working on improving that problem, so if you’re interested, I’ve got some tips for you.
As someone mentioned earlier, reading more will definitely help you. It’ll train your brain to recognize the way the word looks when it’s spelled correctly so you can better recognize it when you’ve gotten it wrong. I read a TON when I was younger and I really think it helped me become a better speller in the long run. It’s never too late to start!
If you’re using the latest version of Firefox, it has spell-check automatically built-in for you – it’ll underline the word in red so you know it’s wrong. It also offers suggestions for the correct word. Maybe this could help you?
Or, if you’re going to write a post or a comment, you could type it up and then paste it into Word for a moment to see what words it flags. Then you can fix them and paste it back into the box.
Good luck! People will definitely take you more seriously if you get a better grip on your writing, so it’s a worthwhile venture.
@Vera – you are amazing for reviewing this site. I think everybody has the capacity to improve, and sometimes it has to be explicitly pointed out for them before they notice what’s wrong.
pajamasam70
October 24th, 2007
@ you all : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlEO_j3B83s
yah try to come to my site now bitches and pull that crap we will for ever own you faggots
edit from Vera: there’s no need to have three separate posts for this, so I put everything into the first one.
V
October 24th, 2007
I’m trying to figure out if it’s Barbie or her only minion Ashley who randomly accused me of sucking dick on my latest post (er, how is “lesbian” defined in your dictionary?), but both seem so equally incapable of coherent speech I’m not sure.
Belinda
October 24th, 2007
Hey I got a trollish comment on one of my older entries too, today! Ugh, it’s disappointing when people put so little effort in being trolls. *sigh*
Vera
October 24th, 2007
Belinda:
I’m not the one who spelled it wrong
, V did.Ah sorry, fixed. I didn’t noticed that, since I spelled it correctly aside that.Ashley: If you had actually read my whole post, you’d see that it is in fact constructive. I offer solutions to all listed short comings.
All links here open in the same window.
pajamasam: huh?
V
October 24th, 2007
Wait, what did I spell wrong?
And pajamasam clearly lost it ages ago. He posted the comment here before I’d responded to him at my site with the link back to this post so I’m not exactly sure what’s going on with him other than crystal meth.
Vera
October 24th, 2007
The webmistress whose site we discussed is called Barbi not Barbie
V
October 24th, 2007
Ahh. I think I read “Barbie” off your first paragraph and apparently stuck with it.
Vera
October 24th, 2007
Oh whoops, it seems I did spell it incorrectly, my bad. Fixed it.
Rilla
October 24th, 2007
Miss Vera I had an idiot commenting on my site referred from your domain too. I’m getting bullied. :’( You’re such a bully redirector tsk tsk.
Vera
October 24th, 2007
^ why exactly do you think I like e-drama? After all I get enough recognition for my reviews elsewhere (I’d marry Jack if I could… seriously).
Catherine
October 24th, 2007
I just have to say Mystical Drama is fitting, in a way. There’s drama everywhere, and some of the comments are a mystery because of the spelling. I can’t understand some of what Barbi is saying.
barbi
October 24th, 2007
@ Vera hunny what are you talking about him postin and me posting?
i realy dont get it can you plese clule me in hunny i realy am lost
and is some one posting with my ip thats what i can gatter from this but who?
Rilla
October 25th, 2007
You guys talk in the exact same way. Not only were your IPs tracked, but also your IQs. And you guys amazingly have the same numbers for both. The latter number being obviously… hideous.
Vera
October 25th, 2007
Barbi: if you look above you will see that pajamasam70 posted here as well.WordPress logs IP addresses, though you as my visitors can’t see that. Since I was asked, I compared your IP address and pajamasam’s. They were the same.
This can mean the following:
1) You are part of a local area network that uses the same router to access the Internet
2) Both of you are using the same proxy
3) You use the same ISP, which assigns identical IP to more than one of their clients (AOL uses this)
4) Both of you use the same computer to post.
I assumed that since you and your boyfriend made those forums about disliking pajamasam, you didn’t decide to create fake e-drama to up your hits or beg for pity.
However, if you or someone from your house is actually this “pajamasam70″, I’d appreciate “him” not to go to other people’s sites and insulting them. I’m the one who wrote the article on my own. You read the forum thread on Snark so you’ve seen that everyone tired to dissuade me from it. If you want to point fingers, then the blame lies solely with me.
I don’t ban IPs because it’s incredibly easy to use an online proxy. Others on the other hand, don’t generally share my mentality.
Louise
October 25th, 2007
You know, I wasn’t actually trying to attack anyone in my previous comment. And yet I too received a rude comment that I did not deserve.
Vera
October 25th, 2007
I think this “troll” just wanted to advertise his forum, and he decided that for some reason insulting others’ sites will work. Not only will this method work, but the sites he insulted all had much better layouts than his pathetic forum.
barbi
October 25th, 2007
@ vera hey realy there is no pajamasam70 at our hose nore be at owr house
lket me give you the lowdown of him ..
he got baned from the fourm me and jutin reun for telling a 10 yrold on or fourm some main nasty stuff and pm me under diff names on yahoo and aim and msn and even made 3 accounts on my space with the same pic (dumb right)
and now on his fourm trying to to hrsses me i have called the cops and they have something on mine ip and his to make sure he dont hressing me
we even made this look
and dreadful65 is not my boyfreind if your thinking that he is the 10 yr old
the man or justin or wwcl the man is my boyfreind
http://www.freewebs.com/pajamasamsucks
that site dreadful and my boyfreind made
so he probly found it and is retalteing
and realy i would like not to be baned from here
i like your site but if you have to over this lil prick can you show me how to use proxies so i can go on your site:)
Vera
October 25th, 2007
Like I said before, I’m not going to ban anyone. What my online friends (Rilla and Belinda) do, is a different matter. He didn’t even insult me for some reason.
Using a proxy? Type “online proxy” into the google search, and you’ll get a shitload of sites. I like to use http://online-proxy.net most. You just type in the URL where you want to go. And it brings you there.
I’m warning you, free online proxies come with lots of ads.
barbi
October 25th, 2007
thanks and with the ones i could say i sayed sorry too when to there pages
i will be wor then wlecome to give it to you if you need it
what this boy(14 yr old) is worng i have his real ip address and if you want it …. e-mail me
barbi
October 25th, 2007
sorry for posting 2 times you can put it in one post if you want but i have pluged your site:)
talking about this rewive so i would like you to check it out and tell me if you like it:)
Crissy
October 25th, 2007
Proxies, I am so clueless on them, are they legal (see how clueless I am, sorry, not to offend, just wondering)?
Vera
October 25th, 2007
Barbi: it’s your right to write whatever you feel like on your site. You don’t have to ask my permission.
No, I don’t care about pajamasam70. He didn’t return to my site, nor did he insult me in any way here. As far as I can see, he left the rest of the sites alone as well.
Crissy: think of a proxy as a sort of mask that your IP address can wear. So basically when you visit a site, the scripts that log your visit see this mask not the real IP address.
Yes, there’s no reason for them not to be legal. For example, there are 3 computers in my household (dad has a laptop and mom and I a PC each). Our contract with the ISP only gets us one IP address, so we use a router to split the signal from the modem. From the outside, you can only “see” the modem, but I could have accessed your site from any of the three computers. This example is a physical proxy.
There are proxy softwares, which you can access easily online. I’ve exemplified in my post above.
barbi
October 25th, 2007
na i ackule worte realy good things about you
if you want to see it its on my home page and its the blog i adeded to it so you have to click read more about this:)
Vera
October 25th, 2007
I did see it, but that’s not the point.
It’s your site and you can and should do there whatever you want (within the limits of the law of course). You credit all your sources, so I didn’t accuse you of stealing in the review. The main problem was that none of the goodies you offered were made by you. And the original sites are much better and more known than yours. That way you will never get to have a truly good site.
But by providing quality content that you made, your site can be well known. In regards to the spelling, if you want I can proof read some. Though I’m not a native speaker so I’m unfamiliar with most slang terms (I had to scour Urban Dictionary to find out what you meant by the verb “to jock”).
Rilla
October 25th, 2007
Is it possible for someone to use another’s IP address? I’m not saying barbi is pajamasam70, but wouldn’t it seem dangerous if someone could “steal” her “identity”?
Anyhow, if they’re not the same person it’s ok. He seems to have stopped.
barbi
October 25th, 2007
ok almost every thing is made by me
the glitters are made by me and i do crite what i use
i dont know how to code backround so i use ammys who is a draer freind of mine and i make every thing on my site but….
the gens they where given to me by the prson you listed there the only thing is that i keep the crite on them
pixles where not made by me they where fond on photobucket and tiny pic
and the online nows where not made by me i have to tak that down all tho use to be on mymyspace site and have moved them:)
otherwize all the rest of the stuff where made by me:)
and thanks for the nice comment
about the store i have bin working on the stuff fro that from the day i found out i was proggo wit h jasmine so i have lots to show for it
Vera
October 25th, 2007
I’m thinking that pajamasam70 is someone other than Barbi as well. I asked Jem about IP address faking and she said that if one’s familiar with the script’s inner workings (in this case wordpress) then you can send the parameter which tells the script your IP address as something other… but this is rather difficult.
I’m thinking it’s either their ISP who allocates the same IP to multiple clients, or there’s a proxy out there with Barbi’s IP.
Crissy
October 25th, 2007
@Vera: thanks for the info. So you can post with other’s IP without being in the same household?
Vera
October 25th, 2007
Yes. Some ISPs assign the same public IP to more than of their clients (AOL for example).
Crissy
October 25th, 2007
Oh. You know so much about all of this
Again, thanks for the info…
Vera
October 25th, 2007
You’re welcome. I’m not that knowledgeable, asked Jem about this yesterday actually
As for proxy, it’s also used in computer programming (figures that school’s good for something after all).
connie
October 25th, 2007
bleh, sorry, i’d rather e-mail this to you since it’s silly, but i couldn’t find an address. anyway, i think the word you meant (in the beginning before the cut) was “piqued” your interest – rather than “peeked.” heh, it’s a bit of a pet peeve of mine when words are used incorrectly.
(as for this girl’s site – i am never going back)
Crissy
October 25th, 2007
Oh Jem is really wonderful with the internet/scripts/programming/etc. I really enjoy her websites, and adore her scripts. School can teach you a lot about the internet if you become interested in computer programming, computer tech, or web/computer activities of any kind. I love school.
Ashley
October 25th, 2007
I find it funny how you complain abut her drama, yet you always seem to reply to it…correct me if i am wrong, but isn’t that instigation?
By illegible i meant…not even able to see..it is too light. then it turns to gray.,also hard to read on white. plus..it only seems to be your group of friends who can’t read what i am saying….must be like the cultural differences..i assume you are from a rural area where they say. such words as, getunouhere!, instead of please leave the premises.
And, i have yet to see those emails…that will keep your fights private so people aren’t discouraged from coming here….
Vera
October 26th, 2007
Connie: *smacks forehead* That’s it! I knew I didn’t quite get the word, but couldn’t figure out why. Thank you. Fixed. I don’t mind if you comment in regards to my spelling.
Ashley: I never complained about her drama. I simply stated that Barbi overreacted thinking I wanted to start any. As I said in the first lines of the post, I love e-drama. As such, I wouldn’t dream of complaining about it.
Your spelling in the previous comments was terrible, which is why we had trouble understanding you.
I fixed the issues with the colors in the comment form, next time please specify where exactly you have the problems. I’m not a mind reader, despite how it might appear to you.
If I’m not e-mailing you, it means: I’m not interested in talking to you about this issue.
Ashley
October 26th, 2007
There wqas only one place that did tat with the type…here..It is the site YOU made you should no what i was talking about…
also, If you don’t want to talk about it and if it doesn’t interest you..why not ignore?
Ashley
October 26th, 2007
oh..and my keyboard is broken..and i am a poor college student who can’t afford a new one…FYI
Vera
October 26th, 2007
Someone should frame this: I’m poor so I can’t be expected to spell correctly or proofread what I write. But I should “no” better than making fun of poor people… You know, I wonder what that makes my parents: they were only able to give me about $15 monthly allowance. However did I manage that? I mean, I’ve only been working for 5 months…
Ashley dear, please don’t try to “defend” your sister. You’re doing her more harm than good.
Crissy
October 26th, 2007
@Vera: how’s work/life in general?
Cynthia
October 27th, 2007
…. more e-drama! Don’t you love it, haa. :2
Vera
October 27th, 2007
Crissy: Great, thanks for asking
Cynthia: Isn’t it obvious?
barbi
October 27th, 2007
hey Vera join my mystical listing site i have a spot there for blogs http://mysticallistings.candiihost.org/
and tell any one esle
oh and there is no music at all on the site and the listed lik is there but when i get popel to join when you click on them the page will show up:)
join plese
oh and i did not try to hid the copyright on the tlayout just my name was big thats why i but her site under loved ones:)
barbi
October 27th, 2007
@connie – you site is not worth going back to ether hunny you have nothing but bables on it at lest this one and all the others every one can comment and talk to the owner you are like a drone who would do nothing but blog?
dont you wnat to know how others thoght about your bloging?
and your layout i am not to fond of it
Vera
October 27th, 2007
First of all please try to put everything into one post, instead of making two consecutive posts. Second, I’m sorry but I very rarely join listings. I’m not interested.
Third, Connie does allow comments on her site, at the end of each post there is a link that is a number (eg: [028] for her last post).
And last, lack of comments doesn’t mean your blog is bad. On the sidebar, in the Blogroll I link Violent Acres. her layout is disgusting, she has a truckload of ads and she doesn’t provide any means of interaction with the visitor. And yet her site is one of my favorites.
My point: if your content is great, then your site will have enough visitors. If it’s bad, you can have the best layout in the world, and you’ll never have a “fan base” as you like to call it.
barbi
October 28th, 2007
i do have one i am sorry you cant see….
and realy you are in theis on line click and any thing i say you all have to counter say with 400000000000000000000000000 more things to prove me wrong
oh well what ever
i have more fans then you know
and i am sorry but this is dumb and i got even more fans off your site thanks:)
bye
Vera
October 28th, 2007
One what? Great content? You’ve taken everything from elsewhere: so even if it were great it’s not yours.
As for having counter arguments, whatever is stopping you from coming up with more? Your only one is that your fan base is larger than mine.
Want to talk about fanbase? Let’s see: most of my posts have at least 10 comments, the average count of comments on yours is 3 or 4. Let’s say you get some 4-5 more on the tagboard. However just because people say “hi” it doesn’t mean they’re your fans. It means they want to pimp their site.
Also, do tell me, how many of your regular visitors contradict you ever? None? Those who contradict you don’t come back. Just look at my previous post, almost all of them contradicted me. Yet they still come back to my site to read more.
The last argument, I suppose is your e-mail count. You have let’s say at most 5 requests in two days. has anyone ever e-mailed you to ask for help? Or just to chat, simply because they liked your site? I did have a contact form and public e-mail and had my fair share of those kinds of e-mails.
So, just the same as I can’t see all your visitors (not that I care), you can’t see mine either. Like I said before, hits and visitor numbers don’t make a great site. The content does.
What you got from my site was a larger EXPOSURE, not a lager fan base. Get a dictionary, if you don’t know the difference.
Rilla
October 28th, 2007
You guys remind me of the fire in South California. Similar, except for the fact I didn’t actually “lol” about that fire.
Vera
October 28th, 2007
It’s addicting…
Vera
October 28th, 2007
I haven’t anticipated quite this much popularity for the post, but the counter arguments are nothing to worry about (or even worth considered arguments).
connie
October 28th, 2007
hey vera, what is your e-mail address?
and, to keep this from being too spamalicious, um… the things you own end up owning you.
i’ve been watching too much ‘fight club’ this weekend.
Crissy
October 28th, 2007
Yes, this post has quite a lot of comments. Congrats on 90 comments
Mari
October 28th, 2007
I agree with Crissy, good job on your 90. My e-dramatic post only got 24. However, I did score a whole half a blog written about me and how horrible I am. YES!
But really, it’s not about the comments anyway. I didn’t write my post because I wanted comments, I wrote it because I wanted to share something funny.
When is your content coming back? I miss it. *cries*
Crissy
October 28th, 2007
@Mari: Vera kept hers up longer, if you had kept it up a bit longer, I’m sure people would have found something to argue about.
Link please, I must see who said you’re horrible when you did nothing wrong (Vera didn’t either). blog entries based on eDrama are, at time, almost as entertaining as the eDrama. It’s all feeding to the original ‘eDrama’ writer.
I would write eDrama (I have a ton to rant about) but feel that I will get WAY too much hate mail.
Mari
October 29th, 2007
@Crissy: Eh, I didn’t get any hate mail. Just a few hilarious comments.
This is the page with my e-dramatic blog:
http://starrycity.com/index.php?id=11
However, the one who wrote about me doesn’t keep archives so I can’t show you.
barbi
October 29th, 2007
ok you think its not my own content ok it is i mad all unless stated other wise stated
you have shit notihng but a blog and you have to find fans by writeing about me thats all and you got 90 coments most by me and my sister and the reas by your lovers that you fuck
so and yes you are still listed in my site as being the top reffer
dont bleve me check my home page
it on the bottom of the page
Carly
October 29th, 2007
Barbi, this site refered me to yours but I closed it straight away. And PLEASE at least proof read your comments before you submit – or learn to type, I cannot understand a thing you say.
Vera
October 29th, 2007
Barbi: it works both ways. If I’m your top referrer, it means that people go to your site after reading my article. In other words they go to see how bad it actually is. Most of the time, they find it worse than I did, which is in no way good for you. But feel free to keep your hand stuck in the sand. It’s all the same for me.
barbi
October 29th, 2007
what ever you think your the sit and will never be the shit you hunny wake up you are SHIT nothing the only ones that think my site sucks are the ones that com,e to you site all the time just get over it and let be known i am better than you and for ever be better than you
i have more fans than you have
and i am sorry all you comments are to make fun of some one that shows that you worthless and will never be any one al lest my coments show that i am people love coming back to me for stuff not just to make fun of some one….. did you mother teach you that when you have this big hard on for some one it means
1. you love them
2. you want to be them
rember the boy when they pick on you it realy means thay like you ?
yah reamber that
you are the one that took time out of you life to give me press and failed
just like you do at life
you took all this time to write this and wont see that it gave me more press
and yet when i say these think you walk right over then like always
in the end you just prove my point
yah i mite of wrote some thing about you but it was only 4 lines not a book
reamber that you have some mush time on your hands all you want to is bring people down
you wortless
you like the boy in school that trys so herd to be cool but yet ……
your the one haha
haha
at
Vera
October 29th, 2007
YES YES YES! You finally get it! I’m so in love with you that I can’t even sleep at night.
barbi
October 29th, 2007
Step 1
“You admitted we were powerless over (the problem) – that Your live had become unmanageable.”
Vera
October 29th, 2007
Barbi honey, are you hallucinating now?
Also, since we’re playing “ban the IP” I’m still fine with it. And yes, your site is still bad.
Crissy
October 29th, 2007
Hey Vera, 100 comments, spectacular, congrats!!!! =-)
Vera
October 30th, 2007
Not really, quite a few of them are mine and Ashley and Barbi have a tendency to leave more than one consecutive comment. Still… I think I’ll have more unrequested reviews in the future. So much fun
Crissy
October 30th, 2007
Well, still it’s amazing that you managed to get everyone’s attention like this.
Crissy
October 30th, 2007
oh, and Vera: the commenting policy is classic, I love it.
Louise
October 30th, 2007
You call that a rebuttal?
Vera
October 30th, 2007
… hence the quotation marks.
Crissy
October 31st, 2007
That was very funny. Vera, your posts are awesome
Xuan
October 31st, 2007
Hah, nice work, Vera!
Loving this review. *nod*
Chien Yee
January 26th, 2008
KP Sucks. Bwahhaha. And that neon colour too URGH. Neon colours are for teh losers xP
Jordie
January 26th, 2008
110 comments…! That’s got to be a record in our circle.
Chien Yee
January 26th, 2008
Hell yeah Jordie
Way to go Vera