How To Raise an Atheist (1)
I was raised in and live in a highly religious country. Almost any time you turn on the news there is some sort of religious holiday, or at the very least intense preparations for one are being done. According to our constitution, clerical and political issues are meant to be kept separate, but every major commemorative event1 shows our leaders busily making the cross sign.

From left to right:
- President surrounded by high-ranking Orthodox priests2.
- Mayor commemorating a victim of the 1989 Communist Revolution3.
- Yearly gathering at Nicula Monastery to commemorate the Assumption of Mary4
At home before I started school, religion was not something we discussed. It was not a taboo subject or anything of the like; just something that never really came up. We celebrated Christmas… or rather its communist alternative where Father Frost (as opposed to Father Christmas) would bring nice kids gifts. There was also a lavishly decorated pine tree too, underneath which said presents were placed.
I vaguely remember singing a traditional Hungarian Christmas carol, every time before entering the living room to open gifts. It was called “Mennyböl az angyal” which translates to “The Angel from Heaven”. I had no idea what “Menny” (Heaven) meant at the time, so I would often sing it as “Megyböl az Angyal”, meaning “The Angel from the sour cherry”, much to my poor Grandmother’s horror.
My first God-related memory, stems from my kinder garden days. I think I was around 5, tucked in bed for the afternoon nap, holding a whispered conversation with the girl next to me:
Me: And what about God?
Girl: Huh?
Me (uncertainly): He’s inside you…
Girl (flippantly): He’s gone for a walk.
… then came the Communist Revolution and a year after that, I started primary school.
I attended a Hungarian primary school, and my parents fought tooth and nail to get me this amazing primary school teacher. She had also taught my older cousin5 . If you thought that Hungarians were any less religious than Romanians… well you would’ve been sadly mistaken. Sometimes I think that the fact that they’re an ethnic minority, somehow made them even more religious. Perhaps as a way of seeking refuge against the evil Romanians and their perfid ways
.
One of the first things the teacher was required to ask, was our religious denomination to know which religious education class to put us into. For some reason, this was supposed to be a public flogging event, where everyone would stand up and state things like ‘I’m a Reformed‘ or ‘I’m a Catholic‘. When it was my turn, I just stood there all confused and eventually said ‘I’m… nothing.’
The teacher was of course flabbergasted, and the whole class turned to stare at me. I was never very comfortable in a crowd, so obviously being looked at as the oddity of the millennium didn’t exactly help. In the end, I was told to sit down, ask my parents and give my answer the next day. All this was said in a tone hinting towards “of course you’re baptized, you silly goose
“.
Going home, I meekly recounted the story to my mother:
Me: So… today I was asked what my religion was.
Mom: Oh? And what did you say?
Me: I said I was nothing6 .
Mom: You said correctly.
Me: What about you then?
Mom: I wasn’t baptized either. Daddy was baptized in the Greek Catholic rite, but he’s not any more religious than I am.
Me(uncertainly): So… what religious education class am I going to attend then?
Mom: You are not. It’s not a compulsory class.
The next day, when the teacher asked me of my religion (in front of the whole class once again), I promptly answered “I am Catholic”. This seemed to pacify everyone and the issue appeared to have been dropped. I did feel rather lousy for having lied, but I figured that since most kids had their parents’ religion, it was not so much of a stretch for me to claim my dad’s.
Of course, things didn’t stop here. The next episode I remember had to do with bringing documents to school. Once again, students – or rather students’ parents – who forgot are publicly humiliated reminded to bring them to school.
Teacher: Please tell your parents that we need your “cross letter7” at school.
Me(dreading to answer): I don’t have one…
Teacher(incredibly annoyed): Of course you do! Everybody has one!
At home, my mom once again confirmed that I didn’t have such a thing, wondering why the teacher had asked of such a thing. After all she had gone and personally told the teacher that I was not baptized. Luckily, by some stroke of luck I mentioned the incident to my Granny, who used to be a primary school teacher as well, and she saved the day. Apparently “cross letter” was an old term for birth certificate…
The rest of my primary school days are not quite so clear in my memory. It’s mostly a series of events where the teacher would ask me in front of the whole class “Why aren’t your parents letting you attend religious education classes? You’re not being taught anything bad there.” followed by classmates parroting the teacher, of course.
Sometimes, I would try to retort, but of course being still an 8-year-old child, this didn’t really go well:
Me: My parents are not mean, they bought me a Bible and let me read it.
Teacher (haughtily): As if you could understand the Bible. Not even I can fully understand it.Cue classmates staring at me pityingly, while I do my best to be swallowed by the ground.
After that I would generally be running home to my parents, tearfully begging to be allowed to attend religious education classes. My parents however, were not the uneducated hillbillies my primary school teacher was used to dealing with… they were sneaky and knew my character quite well.
Our ‘negotiations’went pretty much like this:
Dad: Why do you want to attend religious education classes?
Me (bawling): Because everyone else is attending!
Dad: But you’d have to go to school an hour earlier or stay an hour later.
Me (wavering): … yes.
Dad: And you’d have more homework too…
Me: Yeah… they even have tests during classes.
Dad: Do you really need extra homework? On top of your swimming lessons/ piano classes?!
Me (sulkily): … no.
Of course, I’d forget all the above and sneak out earlier some days to attend religious education classes. Classmates were all really happy to let me attend, especially since this was one thing they knew which the top of the class8 didn’t. But you know, in the end the novelty wore off for both sides. I still sometimes stealthily sneaked into these classes once in a blue moon, but having extra homework to worry about put a serious damper on ever considering attending “full time”. Not to mentioned that I liked being treated as somewhat of a celebrity. ![]()
My classmates, they continued to be horrified at my doing needle-work on Sunday9.
In the end, I managed to do something even worse than be an atheist heathen. After finishing primary school, I decided to go to a Romanian school… Well technically my parents decided this, and disgustingly enough I was more swayed by their logical arguments than my classmates’ repeated insults or my teacher’s claims that my Romanian knowledge was already very good10.
After this, things … started to change on the “religious front“. I’ll let you decide if it was for the better or worse in Part 2.
Feel free to share your (early) religious experiences, or other comments related to this… well assuming of course anyone was patient enough to get here. XD
- Not necessarily of a religious nature. [↩]
- Picture from How Religious Are Romanian Politicians [↩]
- Picture from December 22nd 2009 at Falticeni [↩]
- Picture from Nicula a magnet for Christians and Politicians [↩]
- Whose coolness level skyrockets by the mere fact that he’s 3 years older than I am.
[↩] - At the time, I didn’t think of the irony of saying such a thing, and my mom is not the type to think of “hidden meanings”. =/ [↩]
- A literal translation of keresztlevél [↩]
- i.e. yours truly [↩]
- We had to sew a skirt once, and as per usual I had put things off till the very last minute.
[↩] - It all depends on who you were comparing me to, after all. [↩]

Kristine
August 15th, 2011
For the first three years of my life I lived in the Philippines with my religious Catholic grandparents. I was a really religious child because I tagged along to every religious gathering my grandmother would go to. Like Romania, the Philippines is a religious country filled with very religious people, but there is no separation of Church and state over there, unfortunately. (Can you imagine, loads of people are against the Reproductive Health bill because it promotes birth control! Say no to condoms, they say!)
With my background, I’m somewhat surprised how things turned out for me. I was baptized Catholic, had my first communion, and I was also “Confirmed” as a Catholic, and yet here I am. I’m still struggling to really know what I am, but I feel like I just can’t justify in believing in God.
I think it’s great that even if you are atheist, you still wanted to attend religious education classes. I remember when my mother would force me to go to Sunday school starting with 1st grade all the way to high school! I always considered it a waste of my time.
Looking forward to the next entries, Vera!
Vera: Heh, of course I wanted to attend religious classes. As soon as my parents said I wasn’t allowed to do something, I immediately felt a mad urge to do said things. XD Plus the kids were constantly telling me how fun and great religious classes were, though I’m sure none of them was so thrilled by them during tests. But maaaaaaaan, we’re doing something you’re not, and guess what? You’re going to Hell for not doing it too… Neer neer neer!
Pfft! I was 7 – 10 years old, of course I wanted to go. Monkey see, monkey do, right?
cantaloupe
August 15th, 2011
I wasn’t raised as any sort of religion, but I chose to go to a Jesuit university, meaning that there were lots of religious people and it was sort of just assumed that everyone was Catholic, or at least Christian. I had a roommate who almost had a heart attack when she found out that I had never been baptized. (Because that means I’m immediately off to hell.) I was also hooking up with a boy once who literally recoiled from me when he heard I wasn’t Catholic. Like he’d had his arm around me all nicely, then I said it, and he involuntarily flinched off me like I was suddenly a million degrees hot and had burned him. Absolutely ridiculous, really…
Vera: ah yes the lack of being baptized came up a lot for me too. And these days it’s the thing which annoys me (and my dad) most. I think someone once said to me, maybe God doesn’t even care about whether or not you’re baptized. The Church however… that is a completely different matter. How could they even hope to have any control over you if you’re not even baptized.
Chantelle
August 15th, 2011
I’m Christian, a protestant. My family is Christian too, but I don’t attend church regularly (I never have – but I’ve gone occasionally). I believe in God and Jesus and being nice and that’s about it.
Vera: I think most of my acquiantances are like that too. They’d attend the midnight mass during Easter and then go about their non-religious business as usual for the rest of the year.
Stephanie
August 15th, 2011
For the record, I am Buddhist. Because I’m Chinese, my family follows Mahayana traditions, and I’ve gone to a few Buddhist temples to pray. Despite all that, my personal beliefs align more with the Theravada sect. So far, my family does not know this, and I’m not sure how to tell them. But since the core of the two sects is the same, there shouldn’t be a huge problem, especially since my family is not very religious.
When I was young, the kids didn’t really pick on me too much for not going to any sort of Church. So far, I have only lived in “liberal” areas of the United States (specially New England and Los Angeles), which generally means that as long as you are respectful of others and act respectfully, your religion is inconsequential. In school, teachers taught us about all the world’s religions with a sizable following (Christianity/Catholicism, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism – we even covered some old “pagan” and Zionism traditions) regardless of our own denomination. Core beliefs and traditions of each one were presented as facts. Our teachers preached again and again that everyone is entitled to their own religious beliefs and that it was important to not judge people by their religious beliefs and enforce our own beliefs on others. If somebody came out as an atheist, there would be no gasps throughout most of New England or California. I think that it’s because of my experience in school that led me to question the Mahayana beliefs and go with what I wanted.
Even though I’m Buddhist, I have attended part of a few Christian Church services and even performed flute in one of them. There is indeed a sense that a good person will go to heaven, even if he was not properly baptized. Quite a different experience from yours I’d say – but we did grow up on two different continents.
Mennyböl az angyal reminds me a lot of the psalms and Christmas carols that Christian kids here sing. It’s calm and sweet. =D
Vera: That’s interesting. I’ve never heard of a Christian religion that would not stress the importance of being baptized. Hm… sometimes I envy you guys who live in such liberal places where beliefs are not important. But then, I really liked my last religion teacher so, I guess it was not all bad either.
Heh, I like the Christmas carol too, but I didn’t sound nearly as calm and sweet while singing it. Was way too enthusiastic about it all (gifts :yay: )
Kitty
August 19th, 2011
I read both your posts on How to raise an atheist 1&2 but I opted to post my comment here (instead on the latest one) as I feel I can better relate my story with this post.
I’m a Muslim, born to Muslim parents so I have little knowledge about the other faiths. Like most Muslim kids, I had to attend religious school in the afternoon. I grew up believing in everything the religious books and the teachers taught me, never even questioning anything. It was only a couple of years ago I started to wonder (not so much question them) about all those things mentioned in the Islamic traditions. The stories mentioned about events that are scientifically impossible and these led me to think what else are there in the religion that aren’t true.
Looking forward to part 3!
Vera: oh that’s perfectly fine. I love it when people (re)read my older posts. As for the rest of your comments… I’ll be addressing them in part 3 … or 4… apparently I’m much more long winded than I initially thought.